User talk:Luciano

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When working on demographics, please try and use the names of continents or regions in the fictional world not the real world, thank you. I noticed you used "European" "African" "Aboriginal" etc. Those won't work here. Bhj867 (talk) 07:14, 9 August 2014 (CEST)

I understand and I agree - however, currently there do not appear to be any articles describing our world's ethnicities, therefore these terms (European/African etc) must "stand in" for those local terms, until those local terms can be clearly defined. What is our world's name, anyway? Just "OGF world"?
So far most of us have been using "The World" and making up our own ethnicities based on either real ethnicities or ones related to the ethnicities of our neighbors. We are currently working on building a model of the language groupings and cultures of this world. When using continental terms, the continent names are marked here at Portal:Geography. Use terms like "West Ulethan" or "East Terephian". Here is a handy map that is being worked on at the moment. quick map and being talked about Here: Talk:Portal:World History. I am encouraging everyone to get into the conversation. :) Please don't be offended if I copy paste this into others talk pages. Thank you (talk) 07:26, 9 August 2014 (CEST)
OK. Perhaps I can give some feedback on how I conceptualize my two countries vis-a-vis your map (which is, by the way, useful and interesting - thank you for the link). I will put it here for lack of a better place.

Ardisphere is, culturally, an analogue of a Latin American, Spanish-speaking country, but with substantial Korean-speaking, English-speaking, Welsh-speaking, and Japanese-speaking minorities (in roughly that order of magnitude). They also have a small remaining "native" population (Altazorians), cf Argentina. Where did these people come from? I don't know... "Spain," "Korea," "England," etc., need to be defined, right? If I was granted another territory, I would have a go at building an analog "Korea" (I have a name and a history for it, it's called Gohanguk). In looking at your map, I think we should probably place "Asia" somewhere in the east of Uletha.

My other country, Mahhal is, culturally, vaguely Japanese/Korean/Greek/Sumerian/NativeAmerican, but it is not any of those things, either. It's unique and has no "real earth" analog. It is much more intended to be a true alternate universe, and is novelistic in depth, while Ardisphere is just a lark at map-making.

On a whim, just last week, I decided Ardisphere had a Mahhalian-speaking minority too - I may run with this. I was also considering the possibility that my Altazorians (native Ardispherians) are related to the Mahhalians.

Just change your username. Think about how many times the word "Ardisphere" and "Ardispheric Federation" is mentioned in your articles, and then replacing all of that with your new country name. That's a lot of work. (User:Boge)
I know! I have been watching your progress on changing Larvernia... it is partly what made me think of it. And since the country came before the username, in my imagination anyway... yes, I think I just want to change my username.--Ardisphere (talk) 03:26, 22 October 2014 (CEST)
Good for you! Yeah, that was a really late decision to change it. I could've changed Larvernia last January, but I just went along with it. You have far more articles than me, and changing all of those can be time-consuming, and also changing all embassies or places or streets in the map. --Boge (talk) 03:36, 22 October 2014 (CEST)

Hey Luciano - like the new name, less efficient perhaps but more human! --Demuth (talk) 19:36, 23 October 2014 (CEST)

Thanks. I feel more human, too - less like a country.--Luciano (talk) 03:32, 24 October 2014 (CEST)

Sibling Cities

Hello Luciano I take the "Sibling Cities" to the list of Cities. I hope, this side with the sibling cities is easyer to find then. I find, it is an good idea with this sibling cities and so may be someone more have interest at more of such team-work. --Histor (talk) 02:47, 16 February 2015 (CET)

No problem - good idea. Thanks for thinking of it.--Luciano (talk) 03:54, 16 February 2015 (CET)

Free Trade Agreements

Love the FTA initiative. And now I'm updating Dacres Ltd. and want to add in how many stores/where in the Ardisphere. So not only should you feel free to build in Wiwaxia, feel free to add info onto the Wiwaxia wiki pages as apporpriate as well. --Demuth (talk) 09:15, 22 February 2015 (CET)

Removing Pages

Hey Luciano - it seems that you are an administrator of the wiki, and I want to delete a page I created - High Court of International Justice - because I somehow missed that an International Criminal Court already exists which seems to perform the same function. Thanks! --Demuth (talk) 15:26, 22 March 2015 (CET)

deteled, as you wish --Histor (talk) 22:55, 22 March 2015 (CET)
Thank you histor. I was sleeping...--Luciano (talk) 00:08, 23 March 2015 (CET)
Thanks Histor! --Demuth (talk) 16:00, 23 March 2015 (CET)


The "Great Copper, Bronce and Brass Company" (Niulutan-Riu) has set a work at Calle 242 / Bulevar Usinas in 14, -24.3776, 124.1001. I hope, you agree with the place --Histor (talk) 13:10, 23 March 2015 (CET)

Looks good! Welcome to Caracol and the Greater VC Metropolitan region.--Luciano (talk) 15:15, 23 March 2015 (CET)


I like "multimap" extension maps you've done. I'm guessing you must have a way of automating the creation of those somewhat (from JOSM)? Would like to know! Thanks/wangi (talk) 01:13, 26 March 2015 (CET)

Thanks for the feedback. I do a lot of hacking and experimenting, with a rather short attention-span. The earlier ones were mostly done by building and then extracting from "offline" data sets (in spreadsheets). The biggest example is the RUTA-VC transit map, which is huge but which I mostly maintain to keep track of my own progress and work. The most automated was the sandbox territories map (which Thilo used as inspiration for the new OGF:Territories), which is driven by high-data quality in the relations (I set a parameter in my perl script to pull admin_levl=2 with ogf:status=*). Then I can cut-and-paste the output into the wiki. I have applied similar technique to make the admin_level=4 / admin_level=6 maps of Ardisphere. I created some special tags for my relations: ogf:color, ogf:title, ogf:text ... if we get the same level of data quality on some group of Gobrassanya relations (i.e. extra tags, no broken relations), we could do the same for Gobrassanya districts - take a look at some of the relations in Ardisphere for examples.--Luciano (talk) 01:39, 26 March 2015 (CET)
Is that a Perl script of your own? I'm tidying up the Gobras City wards into relations and aim is to then get them into a map. A Perl hacker too... Thanks/wangi (talk) 01:50, 26 March 2015 (CET)
Well... it's a hack-job of various things found online, adapted and changed and patched together to match what I wanted to achieve. First time I ever hacked perl, TBH. Many years ago I was certified SQL coder, however. I can figure out the concepts if I work at it. If you get the relations more or less cleaned up for Gobras City wards, and add some tags like ogf:colour / ogf:title in the style I used in Ardisphere, I'll give a shot at making a map for Gobras City. I have the same plan for the Barrios in VC, but I have only 17 out of a projected 260+ neighborhood relations created for VC at this point, so it will be a while.--Luciano (talk) 04:04, 26 March 2015 (CET)
I was hoping to figure out how to do this, but I dunno... I changed the Lhatghaver/Harley boundary in Gobrassanya to match the preexisting series of wiki maps, and was going to adjust your awesome multimap accordingly... but I think it's above my skill level. :-( --Isleño (talk) 21:55, 29 March 2015 (CEST)
I don't think I could do it "manually" either - it's an automated script. So... if I download the latest backup file, run the script, then violà (as long as the relations are well-formed and the delay in the backup creation has been accounted for). So we will wait for the backup to catch-up to your edit, and run it again. I also just did a tweak on the Lonowai relation so it will be included too.--Luciano (talk) 00:14, 30 March 2015 (CEST)

Islas M y M

Possibilities here: Islas M pop density, language, economy.svg

--Udilugbuldigu (talk) 16:49, 20 November 2015 (CET)

Antiwikification action

Hi Luciano. Saw you deleted like many Ardipherean-related articles as part of the anti-wikification campaign. Congrats. However, I thought it will be better if you can put them into like an Ardiapherean sandbox, unless you dont wish to work on them anymore.--Happy mapping and may God bless you, ZK (talk) 10:56, 28 February 2018 (CET)

Cleanup request

Hello, Luciano. Would you be able to delete the file File:Himno de Raiden.wav? It's causing a database error in a lot of categories and special pages right now. It's related to a sadly lost country, and the wiki isn't set up to handle audio files like this at the moment anyway. Thanks! — Alessa (talk) 23:55, 29 January 2019 (CET)


Just a reminder... still waiting for approval of.. well something. I have laid out plans and possibilities but no one has really given any substantial feedback yet - anxiously awaiting progress to begin. —Zytik (talk)

@Zytik - welcome to the wonderful world of OGF collaboration! You post ideas, and no one responds. So... what to do? You have to advertise. Keep reminding people of your project. You're competing for attention. It's a bit like managing a classroom of unruly students. Eh... what was your project again? What feedback did you want? Make a survey, somewhere. Organize your project so that it's easier for people to find and respond to, in different areas (User diaries, forums, User:/sandboxes...).--Luciano (talk) 05:24, 14 March 2019 (CET)

Nobody can give substantial feedback - we wait for more as a "rough" scetch. Give this, Zytick, and you will get a lot of positive feedback. --Histor (talk) 08:02, 14 March 2019 (CET)

I hand drew something to the best quality that I could.... I dont know how I could give anything more clean, as I am not versed in web and graphics designing. Hand drawing is the only way I know how to create these things for now --Zytik (talk) 12:05, 14 March 2019 (CET)
As I written before on the Huntingdon page: It is nothing to say against a hand-drawing scetch. I know masterworks in handdrawing. Paper and pencil may be enought. Important are the details. Happy mapping --Histor (talk) 12:22, 14 March 2019 (CET)
Can we (re-)start this discussion at the appropriate place? The forum maybe? --Toadwart (talk) 12:50, 14 March 2019 (CET)

Hi Zytik, I avoided giving feedback because it was a closed question really, and the response would have been along the lines of an alternative proposal. But you'd asked to focus on the one proposal. In general people are often very reluctant at giving negative feedback, especially when there's limited opportunity for a constructive comment. If you ran a poll with "do you like the hex proposal" yes/no I think you'd get strong feedback.

In general I think it would be good to flesh out the topology and natural features first. Because I think one of the realistic proposals for a capital plan would for it to call out to those natural features (like Canberra does with the peaks). Use the tools you know - you can do this in a non-uploaded layer in JOSM for example. Or reach out to another user and ask them to model it.

It would also be good to think through the weaknesses of the Gobras City plan and how to avoid them. /wangi (talk) 13:46, 14 March 2019 (CET)

Thanks for all these thoughts and suggestions. I wasn't very helpful in my comment. Zytik has a lot to learn, I guess was my main point - collaboration is HARD, and managing collaboration is harder. I agree with @Toadwart, this conversation should be moved/restarted in a better location.--Luciano (talk) 16:46, 14 March 2019 (CET)
cough cough -TheMayor (talk) 19:21, 14 March 2019 (CET)
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