Forum:Territory application/AR060-09 Nawagan

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	Territory ID and proposed name
	The Territory ID (from OpenGeofiction:Territories, e.g. AR123a) and proposed name of the country

ID: AR-060-09

Name (Ingerish): Province of Nawagan

Name (Franquese): Province De Nawagan

Name(Gishiime): Nawagam

	Physical geography
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Topography:

It is flat in the east and a bit hilly in the west. The east and the north are where many farms are, making the area more easily settled, and more spread out.

Climate:

It will be more like DFA and DFB on the climate classification. CFA in the north and DFA in the south. It will be a more cool temperate climate that experiences below freezing temperatures in the winter and warm summers much like Northern Ohio.

	Human geography
	A brief description of the territory demographics, economic development, land occupation, infrastructure and mapping style

Development and land divisions:

Nawagan comes from the Gishiime word Nawagam meaning middle of the lake, this is the name many in the area referred to the lake as. Resulting in unaware colonizers using Nawagam and soon Nawagan to describe the area.

Historically Nawagan relied on fishing and lumber production up until the late 1800s when large scale manufacturing cities started popping up in the east and the west, many of the western cities discovered copper causing many to move into those cities looking for work.

Many population centers such as Fayette, Tomilson and others gained an initial population from industry with Fayette gaining the most out of all due to it's constant supply of jobs from manufacturing to tech.

The population will be under around 5 million as Fayette holds the most at a population of 1.1M with a metro just under 1.5M including mostly cities and towns along the lake, their land area is as big as the metro area labeled on the map but some parts of it contain farmland much like Ottawa's metro area does while it's metro population is under 1M.

Map containing metro areas in light orange and forests in dark green:

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1082436786334208093/1082520499134931025/plansss.jpg

Another map shows the various regions of the province:

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1081833315272773754/1082129352403210240/regions.png

Style:

Inspirations include Northern and Eastern Ontario, including a few areas along the lake with inspiration from small towns accessed by Highway 401 in between Bowmanville, ON and Napanee, ON by the western side of the lake. I will include a small bit of Saskatchewan and Northern Ohio as inspiration for the northern plains region.

	History & culture
	A brief description of the intended culture and language

History will align with Deodeca's plans. Ingerish remains the prominent language, with indigenous languages such as Gishiime and Lumquah slowly gaining recognition, Franquese is more of a minority and is mostly spoken in Fayette, due to it's high immigrant population. English is still the most widely spoken language in Nawagan.

	Past mapping
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	The {{coord}} template can optionally be used to link to the OGF map - it results in a nice formatted link. Or you can paste in a URL.

My past mapping can be found around OGF, I mapped Saint Albane in Confederation Astrasienne (which was tweaked by other mappers to make way for a new coast) https://opengeofiction.net/#map=14/-44.8199/153.5153&layers=B

A suburb based off of East York, ON https://opengeofiction.net/#map=15/-43.5039/147.7796&layers=B

And much more all over Onatino and in Anrovia

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Plainoldbread (talk) 03:15, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

	Discussion
	Discussion for clarification & decision

• Just to clarify, this application is a swap for Onatino, correct? —TheMayor (talk) 03:21, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
  • Yes Plainoldbread (talk) 04:52, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
  • I'd also like to move Tomilson and Wadeville into the areas i've sent to you. Plainoldbread (talk) 04:56, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

• Hi, potential neighbor. I like your application and had a few comments. Southern Clamash is predominantly plains and rolling hills, so I’m not sure what your plan for the far north of the province is. Additionally, a few rivers in southwestern Clamash are setup to drain into Lake Amanecer. As for franquese, you should know there is no trace of influence of it in Clamash. My biggest concern would be the proposed population as seems a bit high. - Glauber

• My only comment would be to note that the climate for this province is less southern Ontario and much more in line with the Ohio Valley (Louisville to Pittsburgh), so it won't be as cold. This does not impact the urban portion of the application really at all, but it does impact the rural aspects. The 'wet' season will also be quite conducive to good agriculture of corn, wheat, and beans more so than vegetables and barley. There shouldn't be much in the way of large-scale coniferous forests in the state or the same type of agricultural patterns seen in northern Ontario. — Alessa _(talk) 14:49, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

• On that note, even in the Ohio Valley you can find dense forests, especially close to the river along the Ohio-West Virginia border. While forested areas in the province might be cottage country, there's precedent for forests of decent size along rivers (such as the rivers crossing the border from Clamash), with small pockets of agriculture cutting through, again not unlike the Ohio-West Virginia section of the Ohio River. Due to an agriculture-conducive climate, it's possible for large swathes of forests to be cleared for farmland, but it's also possible for these forests to stay untouched thus far. The rural landscape is quite flexible here, in my opinion. - Thanks, Zekiel (talk) 16:11, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
• What could happen is a flat and predominantly agricultural landscape from the north moving south toward lake Amanecer along river valleys, which slowly transitions to a forest-dominated rural landscape as the terrain becomes less flat in the west. - Thanks, Zekiel (talk) 16:11, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

• If Fayette is a metro area of 3+ million people, any significant wooded areas nearby would've been harvested, either to clear land for agriculture/development or for building materials, especially considering Fayette's rapid pace of growth. I think it's unlikely they'd stay "untouched" in modern times outside of limited preserves and more significant terrain that's unsuitable for farming. I doubt there'd be significant forests outside of the southwestern part of the province. --TheMayor (talk) 17:16, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

• While I agree with Mayor's comment on this, please understand that my remarks were not denying the ability to have forests. I was only commenting on the types of forests, which can impact landuse patterns (underbrush, soils, erosion, types of clearing, etc.). The warmer temperatures and different rain cycles will also impact the types of agriculture, types that are often and usually found on larger plots of land and across expansive areas. That was the confines of my remarks. The theme of Ontario cannot be completely superimposed without addressing some of the necessary tweaks brought on by this location's climate. — Alessa _(talk) 17:19, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

• Absolutely, the plan would have to be tweaked in this regard. We'll see what changes come about.- Thanks, Zekiel (talk) 18:43, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

• I would tweak the plan to include more farmland in the area but most likely with a greenbelt type of situation in Toronto or even London, that compacts the size of the city. I do see though that the plan of making the west more forested doesn't seem all too sensical but I might add small pockets of forestry in the plan to accommodate this. Thanks for the suggestions though Plainoldbread (talk) 21:57, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

• When you get a chance, please update the sketch(es) accordingly and we'll review the updated application. --TheMayor (talk) 22:25, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
  • • Alright, I've done the required updates here including a name change aswell due to the fact I like Nawagan a lot more. Plainoldbread (talk) 04:47, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

	Territory application approved
	The updated application for a territory swap is very good, and I look forward to having you as a neighbor. Your previous territory will be marked as reserved and you are responsible for relocating any mapping you wish to keep to your new territory. Your previous territory will remain "reserved" until 31 Mar 2023, or whenever you inform us that you've relocated all the mapping you wish to, whichever comes first. Additionally, to avoid potential confusion, please be sure to remove any outstanding "FS" motorway ref tagging as part of the move. --TheMayor (talk) 16:03, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
	As a reminder, Deodeca is a collaborative project; consistent activity and coordination and cooperation with other provinceowners are crucial to the project's success.