Forum:Territory application/UL26e - The Ardenlands

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	Territory ID and proposed name
	The Territory ID (from OpenGeofiction:Territories, e.g. AR123a) and proposed name of the country

Ul26e The Ardenlands

	Physical geography
	An overview of climate, topography and landscape of the country. It is advised to also create a sketch, you can add a link to this (hosted on imgur or similar)

Topography: The west island is mostly flat plains with some forest in the center, most of the mainland is on flat plains with a few hilly forests.

Climate: The country has a temperate climate. Max temps in winter are around 20C, summer around 30-35C.

Landscape: There are many forests in the country, mostly in the center, many of which are national parks. Outside of the forrests are plains mainly in the east and west.

I will remove most of the exisiting forest/rivers/mountains and make my own.

POSSIBLE MAP OF COUNTRY:

https://imgur.com/a/YOe436w

Forest & terrains will be scattered

MAP KEY

Green lines - Motorway

Yellow lines - Main road

Blue circles - Major city

Red circle - Capital city

Purple circle - Minor city/major town

Red line - Province border

Red text - Province name

	Human geography
	A brief description of the territory demographics, economic development, land occupation, infrastructure and mapping style

Demographics: Most people (~90%) are Ardenich. ~85% people speak English at home, ~5% speak Spanish, ~5% speak German, ~5% other languages. Most people are atheist (~85%) with ~10% being Christian and the rest other religions.

Economics: GDP is similar to that of West Europe / US / Canada / Australia. Median income is AUS $ 56 000.

Land: Industrial and commercial areas are mostly on the mainland. West island is mainly rural farmland and residential. Farmland is present in non forest rural areas.

Mapping style: It will be Australia like, most cities and towns will be similar to Australian cities/towns but also mix with other Western countries' density.

	History & culture
	A brief description of the intended culture and language

English is the official spoken language in the country. Culture is similar to Western Europe like and leans towards that of England. Beans on toast is a world famous Ardenich cuisine.

History: The Ardenlands was settled in the 1600s by English settlers, uninhabited before that. It was a colony until the mid 1800s when it gained independence. Many old towns have very British names.

	Past mapping
	To support your request provide links to areas of OGF mapping which showcase your mapping skill. Mapping relevant to the requested theme & geography is especially useful
	The {{coord}} template can optionally be used to link to the OGF map - it results in a nice formatted link. Or you can paste in a URL.

City - https://opengeofiction.net/#map=14/14.2719/-107.9831&layers=5

Small rural town - https://opengeofiction.net/#map=14/14.1039/-107.7672&layers=5

Town (more detailed) https://opengeofiction.net/#map=15/12.4751/-112.6437&layers=5

Am familiar with editors and OGF/OSM map styles, have experience using editors on OSM, profile: https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/volga_shibe

	Username & date
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cheakshibe 19-01-2023

	Discussion
	Discussion for clarification & decision

Hello cheakshibe, thank you for this well-written territory application. We are especially happy to welcome mappers with OSM experience. I wonder if territories in other regions might be a better fit for your plans: As laid out in the East Uletha Concept, sector 26 is indeed intended to follow an Austronesian or South Asian (Indian) theme. What wasn't specified (in fact I just did so after reading your application) is that the region is not intended to have been subject to intensive colonialisation, be it by Ingerland (our RW-Great Britain equivalent) or other colonial powers. We have already put aside many other regions on the planet that could be host to a variety of English speaking colonial territories. In East Uletha that would mostly be sectors 29 and 32, and especially Archanta allows for much more freedom regarding this theme. Maybe the regional admins from there can also chip in on this discussion. What are your thoughts? Cheers, Leowezy (talk) 21:29, 20 January 2023 (UTC)

If you are interested in an Ingerish-colonial territory, you may be interested in one of our large collaborative projects in South Archanta. Specifically, the Federal States of Archanta is an American-inspired project, and Deodeca is something of a Canadian/Australian hybrid. Feel free to send me an OGF message and I can make some recommendations down there in regards to what vacant territories in those projects would fit what you have in mind in regards to culture, climate, and topography. --TheMayor (talk) 22:08, 20 January 2023 (UTC)

Hey, I'm not really interested in collab projects, any English speaking theme areas with small teritories that would be suitable for a flat country? Preferably an island(s) - cheakshibe, 21-01

Just to add on to what TheMayor said, a territory in those collabs is different from other collabs in that you still own and are the only mapper in your respective territory; it's just part of a larger group of territories that coordinate on things such as a common government. If I remember correctly, Deodeca is specifically designed to be alter-Australia. Regarding the availability of territories strictly fitting your description, I'd have to redirect to TheMayor again, as I don't know that the plans for southern Archanta look like regarding this. Leowezy (talk) 15:18, 21 January 2023 (UTC)

"flat, English speaking, rich, island" - the geofiction equivalent of going hunting for a Unicorn. Instead, this site is very much about collaborating with neighbouring territories, even if not part of the established collabs. It's all part of trying to create a cohesive, realistic, fictional map. Otherwise we'd have a crazy hodgepodge of super-rich, motorway overloaded city states. So, we've a glut of territories which probably don't interest you, and a requirement to work within a collaborative framework (although a really loose one) for the areas which might. Them's the breaks.

Regarding your mapping so far - there's some major scale issues with your more detailed town. This is something which can be especially hard for those coming from OSM, since there's no background mapping as a size reference. Be sure to use the scale helper to help compare, and the measurement functions within the editors. Thanks/wangi (talk) 22:40, 21 January 2023 (UTC)

Is AR099 or similar available? I'm not looking for a particuarly large territory and it's between North Amrica and Africa so I guess it can be English speaking? Also the scale helper is great thanks wangi. - cheakshibe, 22-01

AR099 is marked as reserved, it is not available. Thanks/wangi (talk) 09:26, 23 January 2023 (UTC)

Ok. are there any english-speaking territories that aren't large that I could have a look at? - cheakshibe Also would Ul29j be english speaking? I'm currently interested in the territory.

UL29j is indeed intended to be English-speaking. The general idea here, as laid out in the [OpenGeofiction:East Uletha|East Uletha Concept], is a colonialisation by Ingerland a few centuries earlier than what happened in RW North America or Australia. Hence the more "old-world-feel" in the respective territories, with significant old towns from late medieval periods. Of course there is considerable freedom when it comes to how mappers choose to develop this theme in their territories; just perhaps consider it a little more like an alter-Australia that was settled a couple of centuries earlier than in the real world (I could imagine for example, and that is really just my personal imagination, Melbourne with a tiny medieval core in its CBD). Incorporation of native Japonic themes is encouraged, especially further south in the sector, but definitely not a requirement.

Seems like a pretty good idea to me, would I be able to have this teerritory then? thanks, cheakshibe

Hi, before granting you a permanent private territory, I'd first ask you to practice a little more in the beginner or blue territories as you have done so far. I can especially recommend the Scale-Helper, to get a better feeling for how wide roads should be spaced and the size of buildings etc. A little practice mapping non-urban areas, such as farmland, forests, mountains or rivers would also be nice. After building up a little bit more of experience you can then apply for UL29j with a territory application like you did for UL26e. If you want to move your mapping from the practice area to your private territory later, please know that that is no issue whatsoever and I can easily help you with that, so you lose no time by spending a little more time in the practice zone. I'll keep UL29j reserved for you for a while. Cheers, Leowezy (talk) 19:56, 26 January 2023 (UTC) (note: please sign your comments by typing four "~"-symbols after each other at the end of your comment, it will turn into a time stamped signature.

Ok thanks, I've made this scaled town: https://opengeofiction.net/#map=16/14.3126/-107.3394&layers=5 and woreking on surrounds. thanks, Cheakshibe (talk) 06:23, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

	Territory application closed
	User applied for different territory. Leowezy (talk) 20:28, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
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