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Rozważania nad nową nazwą państwa

Nazwa Lechia ma problem z brakiem oryginalności – jest to słowo powszechnie używane w języku polskim i stanowi alternatywne, eufemistyczne określenie Polski. Od tego terminu wywodzą się także nazwy Polski w niektórych językach wschodnioeuropejskich, takich jak krymskotatarski i turecki, gdzie używa się formy Lehistan. Z tego powodu uznałem za zasadne rozpocząć rozważania nad zmianą nazwy.
Poniższa strona dyskusyjna ma charakter konsultacji społecznych. Zapraszamy wszystkich – nie tylko czynnych uczestników projektu – do zgłaszania propozycji nowej nazwy. Prosimy o krótki zarys etymologiczny oraz propozycję tłumaczenia nazwy na język angielski. Z góry dziękujemy wszystkim, którzy zechcą zaangażować się w dyskusję.

Język polski


Reflections on a new name for the State

The name Lechia suffers from a lack of originality – it is a commonly used word in the Polish language and serves as an alternative, euphemistic term for Poland. This term also forms the basis of the name for Poland in several East European languages, such as Crimean Tatar and Turkish, where the form Lehistan is used. For this reason, I have deemed it appropriate to begin considering the idea of changing the name.
This discussion page is intended as a platform for public consultation. We invite everyone – not just active participants in the project – to submit their proposals for a new name. Please include a brief etymological outline and a suggestion for translating the name into English. We extend our thanks in advance to all who choose to engage in the discussion.

English language

Olejowy (talk) 17:41, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

Propozycje / Suggestions

Lp.
No.		 Propozycja
Suggestion		 Wersja angielska
English version		 Nazwy mieszkańców
Demonym		 Etymologia
Etymology		 Autor pomysłu
Author of the idea
1. Lemina Leminia Leminians It can be considered that the root Lemi- comes from the hypothetical Proto-Velitic word lěmъ, which could have meant edge - what refers to the eastern coast Olejowy (talk)
2. Lemigalia Lemigalia Lemigalians It can be considered that the root Lemi- comes from the hypothetical Proto-Velitic word lěmъ, which could have meant edge. The suffix -galia could derive from the Proto-Velitic word golъ, which meant bare, naked, without trees, and could refer to open spaces. Olejowy (talk)
3. Lemiłgawa Lemilgava Lemilgavans It can be considered that the root Lemi- comes from the hypothetical Proto-Velitic word lěmъ, which could have meant edge. The suffix '-łgawa' could be a combination of the Proto-Velitic word lugъ, which meant meadow, wetland (as in the word łęg, referring to a marshy area), and the ending -awa, typical for river names. Olejowy (talk)
4. Lacja Lacia Lacians From Oldpolish word lacki (polish, catholic). Lankusiek (talk)
5. Nowakia Novakia Novakian As I known nothing about polish language, I took a look in Google and seems loke Nowak is the most popular surname in Poland. I tried to created something like "Nowak's land". Yes, I got an OGF-country using this name in south Tarephia, but surely I would change it if you choose this name, as I seems to fit better in current Lechia than in south Tarephia. BMSOUZA (talk) 13:23, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
6. Zetrwalia Zetrwalia Zetrwalians From zetrwać (przetrwać, wytrzymać, wybyć — survive, endure, get through), and the ending –lia. Final form can be modified Lankusiek (talk)
7. Zawikłynia Zaviklynia Zaviklynians Literal translation could be "The country beyond the rift" referring to the passage of the Velitic peoples through the rift. From za- (beyond), wnik or wnitek (ciasne przejście — tight passage) or wnikły (wgłębiony — recessed), however, the letter n has disappeared, and additionally the ending –nia. Lankusiek (talk)
8. Kołenska Colne / Kolna / Kolenia Kolnians / Kolenians Uncertain etymology, some ideas:
- from Proto-Velitic kòlъ ((wooden) stake, sudis (Roman defensive object (uncertain)));
- from Proto-Velitic koltъ (to gouge, create a hole);
- from Proto-Velitic kolesьnъ (wheel);
- from Proto-Velitic kolěno (knee) 		Bixelkoven (talk)
9. Łenska Lenn / Lenia / Lenardia Lennish / Lenians / Lennards(?) /Potential derivatives: Lenard (The Lenard Order) Uncertain etymology, some ideas:
- from len (linen, flax);
- from Proto-Uletarephian word *leǵ- (to gather, to collect) -> *leǵ-no-m (that which is collected);
- from Proto-Velitic *lěnь (lazy) 		Bixelkoven (talk)
10. Ignarchia Ignarchia Ignarchian It derives directly from the Latin word ignis, meaning fire. Olejowy (talk)
11. Zasokocja / Zachocja Zasocosia / Zachosia Zasocosians / Zachosians Uncertain etymology. Uncle Google said that cleft/chasm (polish: szczelina) is socors in latin, but it is rather not. Lankusiek (talk)
12. Wietacja /
Wełtacja / Wełtycja 		Vietacia / Vetacia /
Velitacia / Veliticia 		Vietacians / Vetacians /
Velitacians / Veliticians 		Uncertain etymology. Could be from the name of the Wietaci/Wełtyci (Vietati/Vieti/Velti/Velitic?) tribe, and that from Proto-Velitic vějati (wiać — to blow) or věťati (wiecać, mówić — to say). It would mean, there where the wind blows or/and those who say. Lankusiek (talk)
13. Bobrycja Bobricia Bobricians not really a serious entry just bober Mie (talk

Dyskusja / Discussion

For my proposals, I've noted only the root words for the names, the actual stories and how the names formed and changed overtime can be derived from those, but I didn't want to overfill the table with lots of text. ⸺ Bixelkoven (talk) (West Uletha Admin) 11:53, 5 October 2024 (UTC)

Wybór nazwy / Selection of a name

Na propozycje czekamy do 13 października, do godziny 20:00. Wówczas planujemy zorganizować na discordzie dyskusję, której celem będzie wybór nazwy. Do udziału w głosowaniu zapraszamy użytkowników polskojęzycznych. Po głosowaniu zostanie umieszczony tutaj protokół z głosowania

We are waiting for proposals until October 13th, at 8:00 PM. At that time, we plan to organize a discussion on Discord, aimed at selecting a name. We invite Polish-speaking users to participate in the voting. After the voting, the voting report will be posted here.

Olejowy (talk) 12:35, 11 October 2024 (UTC)

Voting report

On October 13, 2024, at 8:00 PM, on the Opengeofication Discord server, among the Polish-speaking users, we began a discussion about changing the name of the country. Ultimately, each participant submitted five top names, which corresponded to points from 5 to 1. A total of 5 people voted. The final results are as follows:

  1. Wełtycja - 19
  2. Kołeńska - 13
  3. Lemiłgawa - 8
  4. Lemigalia - 8
  5. Ignarchia - 6
  6. Zasokocja - 6
  7. Zetrwalia - 5
  8. Zawikłynia - 4
  9. Wietacja - 3
  10. Wełtacja - 2
  11. Zachocja - 1

The voting deadline passed on October 14, 2024, at 8:00 PM. No veto was submitted. The significant lead of the winning name gives us grounds to believe in the general acceptance of the chosen name.

Olejowy (talk) 18:25, 14 October 2024 (UTC)

This is a good selection, in my opinion, and I'm glad the users in the project have had a good discussion about it. Let's move to the community part of this and see if we can make this official soon. There will be a one-week community vote to accept or deny this proposal, as chosen by the users in that project. Olejowvy, I'll let you start it when you feel ready to do it. (For clarification, the users that participated in the voting can and are encouraged to vote as part of the community-wide effort also.) — Alessa (talk) 12:39, 15 October 2024 (UTC)

Głosowanie publiczne / Public Vote


Pięciu użytkowników - Mie, Olejowy, Rustem Paşa, Lankusiek oraz Exe19 - w głosowaniu przeprowadzonym na Discordzie ustalili, że najlepszą nazwą dla państwa znanego dotychczas jako "Lechia" będzie "Wełtycja" zaproponowana przez użytkownika Lankusiek.


Czy popierasz propozycję wprowadzenia nazwy Wełtycja?

Tak / Nie

Głosowanie jest aktywne do 22 października 2024 roku, do godziny 20:00. Aby oddać głos, należy dodać swoją nazwę użytkownika za pomocą hasztagu i czterech tyld (#~~~~) w punkcie "Tak" albo "Nie".
Język polski


Five users - Mie, Olejowy, Rustem Paşa, Lankusiek, and Exe19 - decided in a vote held on Discord that the best name for the state previously known as "Lechia" would be "Wełtycja," as proposed by Lankusiek.


Do you support the proposal to adopt the name Wełtycja?

Yes / No

The vote is active until October 22, 2024, at 8:00 PM. To cast your vote, please add your username using a hashtag and four tildes (#~~~~) under either "Yes" or "No."
English language


Tak / Yes

  1. ⸺ Bixelkoven (talk) (West Uletha Admin) 16:19, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
  2. Olejowy (talk) 16:57, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
  3. Mie (talk) 16:58, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
  4. Lankusiek (talk) 17:15, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
  5. Rustem Pasha (talk) 17:54, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
  6. --TheMayor (talk) 17:55, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
  7. Imperator (talk) 18:08, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
  8. BMSOUZA (talk) 19:51, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
  9. --IiEarth (talk) 20:01, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
  10. User:Lithium-Ion | [1] (talk) 20:07, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
  11. Liadrien (talk) 11:32, 18 October 2024 (UTC)
  12. Sergjack (talk) 14:56, 19 October 2024 (UTC)
  13. Martinawa (talk) 18:02, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

Nie / No

  1. SleepyAks 16:06, 15 October 2024 (UTC)

Raport z głosowania publicznego / Report from the public vote

22 października o godzinie 20:00 głosowanie zakończyło się. W głosowaniu udział wzięło 14 osób

13 osób zagłosowało za propozycją wprowadzenia nazwy "Wełtycja". Jedna osoba zagłosowała przeciw propozycji.


On October 22 at 8:00 PM, the voting has ended. 14 people participated in the voting.

13 people voted in favor of the proposal to introduce the name 'Wełtycja'. One person voted against the proposal.

Olejowy (talk) 22:53, 22 October 2024 (UTC)

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